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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: Okay to Upload C-Kermit to Local BBS?
Date: 1 May 1995 18:32:00 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
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In article <3o2pfk$t3b@crcnis3.unl.edu>,
anne white <awhite@unlinfo.unl.edu> wrote:
> Last week I downloaded C-kermit for OS/2, the new release. I was
> wondering if it is okay to upload this new C-kermit to a local
> bulletin board system, or is this something which Columbia
> University forbids, or at least discourages.
>
This is a tough one. Without going through all the history and arguments,
which have been rehashed a thousand times in this and other fora, our
preference is that people get it straight from Columbia for various reasons,
including:
. "Mirrored" versions quickly become obsolete.
. Anything on a BBS is perceived as "free".
. There is no quality control -- files can be removed, renamed,
altered, viruses injected, etc.
On the other hand, we would be very pleased if Kermit software could be
distributed on BBS's, mirror ftp sites, CompuServe, AOL, ..., even on
CD-ROMs if the above problems did not occur AND there were some chance
that the people who wind up getting the software this way would "do the
right thing" and purchase the appropriate manuals from us. In our
experience, this almost never happens, mostly because the proprietors of
these services tend to have no interest in getting our message across for
us or of supporting our work in any way.
Instead, they want to attract the maximum number of users with loads of
"free software". In almost every case, we lose income and our workload
goes up because all of these documentationless users want help, and they
contact us because our name is on the software. And to add insult to
injury, in many cases (CompuServe, AOL, CD-ROMs), the service gets money
for distributing our software, while depriving us of income and adding to
our workload.
So, yes, we "discourage" uploading of Kermit software to BBS's, commercial
information services, and FTP sites from which CD-ROMs are made.
> A 2nd question concerns the local bulletin board system. The
> bulletin board software is Maximus version 2.02, operating under
> OS/2. The system does not at this time provide a Kermit,
> external file transfer protocol. Can this C-kermit, version 191,
> be used in this way? What must the operator of the BBS do to use
> it in this way, if it is possible?
>
There should be no impediment to installing C-Kermit as an external
protocol on an OS/2 BBS, in theory, but the deciding factor is how the BBS
software expects to interface to external protocols, and how to share the
communication device between two processes. C-Kermit offers various
methods, described in the accompanying CKERMIT.INF file.
- Frank